Wednesday, July 23, 2008

Day 4: Deanna


In "Stranger than Fiction," the author goes to the extent of meeting different people and experiencing the different physical outer appearences. In your books, describe a certain character's outer appearence and what it says about them. In relationship to the character, how does the outer appearence of people in your community say about them? How does YOUR outer appearence desribe you?

16 comments:

Bubbles said...

I disagree with judging anyone by there outer appearence. At least in material ways anyway. By material I mean by their clothes, shoes, haircut,etc. Society calls that profiling. I need to speak to someone to get an idea of who they are. You can't judge a book by it's cover no matter what is diaplayed.

Lady G said...

I am also reading stranger then fiction and just got done reading life as a dog. This chacter tweaks his outter apperance to see how other people who are not white males feel. "as a white man you can live your whole life never not fitting in. you never walk in a jewerly store that sees only your black skin.You never walk in a bar that sees only your boobs". after he dresses up as a bear, a dancing bear mind you he sees how life is being judge and people assuming thinngs. the poeple in the commuinty sound like that typical ignorant americans. I ama simple and down to earth person, i think my apperence says that all.

TEQ said...

In the story our america Lealan starts showing what kind of a person he is. he starts talking about the wayhe sees black people are treated by whites. he also mentions how black people also have a problem with there own kind. Lealan starts talking about how he feels about white people and what he thinks of them. He says he dislikes white people I think this is a outer appearence of himself it show how he feels about other races. but then he comes to the point where he says every one should be treated the same everyone should be treated equal. the people in my neighborhood would understand him but some may not and not like him around my neighborhood there is different kinds of races and every one gets along with each other. my outer appearence describes the attitude i might have against the world and describe who I am.

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King Phillip said...

Well in Our America, the description of the character physical really doesnt tell me anything about them. But the things taht the characters say and do reflect on who they are. For example, LeAlan is short, belly sticks out and has beaver teeth. That really doesnt tell me anything about who they are as a person. My outer appearence really doesnt describe me as a person. You wouldnt no me from another phillip on the street. As the famous quote goes, "Actions speak louder then words". Actions is what makes the character of a person. The people in my community know me and have seen me grow up. From running down the streets with just a diaper on to going to college. King Phillip

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bigboi314 said...

in the book our america ther are two charater name lloyd and LeAlan the person im going to talk about is LeAlan. LeAlan outerappanec is like here is a big guy, hes Afrian-America kind of short and has a big head. that he eat a lot.

the outerappearence in my communty is like ruff lazy and sometime weathy. my outerappeance is big crazy in and an outkast

WC5 said...

Within "Our Amercia" LeAlan and LLoyd are two african amercian youths who look as such. Meaning they both wear baggie colths. LeAlan is rather big or fat. While LLoyd is is a skinnier kid. I know the question says describe a certain charater but i feel these two to be equally important. in realtionship to my community Lealan and Lloyd would fit in perfectly because they dress the same as everyone where I'm from. Which is a good and a bad thing good because they will fit in bad because not everyone quite undersatnds the way they dress. Most poeple think that the way they dress has something to do with crime whichi is further from the truth. Most not all of the kids who live in my community dress hip hop but they like Lealan and Lloyd have dream that they want will have. Their outer appearnce doesn't really speak good of them. Now my outer appearnce it like my additude is read as indifferent. Which is somwhat true but my indiffence was a defense from being talk about well being me. So I had to learn to not care what poeple think so i guess what i'm saying is my outer appearnce is saying I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK I DO WHAT I WANT!

mike said...

in my my community the outter appearance of everyone is the same, and if not then very simular. this obviously means that these people live stereotypic lives or interests are the same.this is most of the reason why why my apperance my differ. i try to caryy myself differently than others to show that i am completely someone different than the next person. my appearance is different but not outrageous, i dont wanna be seen as a weird, although an outcast isnt so bad. your appearance is everything, it shows who you are or at least how you want to be seen. you dont wanna be seen as something you arent and this dosn't go for only how you dressbut as well as how your facial expressions, the way you walk, and the way you talk

david gerhard said...

When chuck p. dresses up in the dog costume with his friend and walked through Seattle, it really brought into perspective how much are culture really values physical appearance. Because the people in the town couldn’t see the people who were really behind the costumes they began to fear them, some even reacted violently. We need to judge everyone and sub consciously access the “threat.” Chuck p. Really wanted to bring the people out of the norm by forcing them to witness something they can’t explain. His stories are all about showing people things they are not use to seeing. He makes them scared in a way making them vulnerable and more susceptible to the information or events he’s showing you. His dog costume is the physical version of the stories he writes. He in a way is indirectly forcing people to look at things that they normally would feel uncomfortable doing themselves. It would be fun to put on that dog costume and I would probably have fun doing so. It’s easier thought to get through the early stages of my life without creating so many waves. When I get up I put on something that people could easily judge and put me in a category, it’s easier. Right now I’m more focused on what I’m doing and where I’m going. So I will put on something that’s easy to swallow, I will act in a manner that you can handle, just so I can pass you up without a fight.

ryannfigs said...

In Stranger then Fiction I think that the dog and the bear story was possibly my favourite. Two people dress up, one as a Dalmatian and the other as a Bear, it was quite comical, and when they’re running through town, just the responses they were getting from other people was just hilarious. Old women freaking out thinking that they are working form somebody, other people dressed up telling them they “SO totally rule” then the typical “ you look so stupid, just so fucking stupid”. I can actually kind of relate to this one a little more because one day I randomly went to school dressed as a cat just because some of my friends wanted to see if I would actually do it. It was just funny seeing the reaction to some people, my English teacher (His name was Bob Dylan by the way, it was kind of funny) asked me if I lost a bet. I really agree with bubbles though, I hate when people “label” other people with their appearance, its like hey! You wear this type of clothing so your personality must be like this. It’s a pet peeve of mine. People call me a “punk rock girl” because I wear Chuck Taylors and jeans with holes in them, it’s the clothes I’m comfortable in damnit. My boyfriend wears checkered vans with jeans and a t-shirt (granite they are all ‘fitted’ but still) and he’s labeled the ‘skater boy’. People should be able to wear what ever the hell they want to without being put into some category
agh, I really hate that.
Example:In 8th grade me and my friend wore a lot of black and black eyeliner and we where the “Goth chicks”.
HUGE PET PEEVE PEOPLE!

j said...

In Stranger Than Fiction, The chacter(s) that intrigued me the most were the wrestlers in the second essay who were so convinced they were the best and they were so going to make it to the olympics. Some even when their wifes wouldn't want them to wrestle they still would without giving it any thought. Then later on Chuck would explain none of them made it through or did not win "that one huge fight".
The apperance of people in the community/ neighborhood I live in is that all they care about is how they look and how they are percieved by other people, KEEPING UP APPERANCES is all they care about. As for how people view me I think they take me the wrong way due to my love of flashy material objects they automacially put me in the catergory of having the personatily of someone of that nature.

kenaarmay said...

“It’s their ears. It’s as if you’ve landed on some planet where almost everybody’s ears are mangled and crushed, melted and shrunken. It’s not the first thing you notice about people, but after you notice it, it’s the only thing you see” - Stranger Than Fiction (p. 8)

Chuck Palahniuk’s writing makes all the ppl in the book seem as if they’re a lil nutty and absurd for doin the things that they do. In the chapter , Where Meat Comes From, he showcases the fascination of amateur wrestling. The ppl that LUV this sport are regular blue collars that still livin out there dreams of bein a GREAT wrestler. Chuck gives the audience plenty of room to form their own opinions about these ppl. He includes that they would purposely mutilate their own selves to gain more will power to be champions. Through his details, you seem to think that looks don’t matter to them. They rather be winners than good lookers.
The outer appearance to ppl that I kno are kinda mixed. Some really good lookin and some are juss horrid !!!!!...but in reality I have to look past that and c the person on the inside. Which is kinda hard to do lol..I was a person that use 2 be like if u r ugly than u have no REAL PURPOSE….and I kno that’s kinda bogus but I’ve grown up since and have a different outlook…HOPEFULLY !!!!! ppl perceive as a stuck up guy or " black boy who dresses white" cuz i dont wear baggy clothes.... THEY R SOOOO DUMB !!!...maybe i juss like to wear belts lol...i luv 2 hate it !!!

DeannaS714 said...

Lady G, I recall that same line also, and I was realizing how true that was. However, with physical labeling of anyone can be universal. In other words, a white male could also be sort of stereotyped as someone who could be a criminal, just as well as a black male could be someone of higher class. I remember our first Post-Lecture class when Aaron recollects a time when a student didn't realize he was the teacher, and how he describes how he resembles someone from Cook County jail. Our physical doesn’t exactly express who we are in reality it just gives a condensed version of us. If we really dressed or had an outward appearance of who we are in a deeper sense, it would be entirely too complicated. As for myself, my sense of style is more laid back. I don’t wear a lot of colors because I prefer not to focus so much on the outside, but what's on the inside.

Ryan said...

I'm going to focus on Eustace Conway (badass) from THE LAST AMERICAN MAN. He makes his clothes out of the animals he hunts. As some of you may think that is cruel, and your entitled to your opinion, I don't find much wrong with it. I'm not sure why, it just seems natural. Anyway he sews his clothes together with strands of the animal's spine. He is a self sufficient man and wants to provide himself with clothing that he earned. Again, it's part of this natural mentality. It's also a matter of pride. My outer appearance says that I wear the clothes that I wear for comfort. I wear soccer clothes because it allows me to move quicker. I feel that it's important, atleast for me, to stay nimble and on my feet at all time. Like Eustace, I may live out in the wild at some point in my life. I comb my hair to the side sometimes because I like the image. I wear sandles because that's the closest thing I can wear to being barefoot. I don't like shoes and I don't like socks. But everywhere I go, it's required that we wear socks and shoes. I don't support the idea of wearing glasses or contacts because it isn't natural. But if I wasn't wearing contacts or glasses, I'd be blind.

Mansfield M said...

Judging someone by their outer appearance can go either way. I would not expect anyone to trust me if I was dressed as a hobo holding a knife and asking for spare change. That’s just crazy to expect someone to do that. But then again you would trust a will dressed man wearing a rosary holding a knife either. The reason why people may judge is because they are afraid of what they can’t control, and people can’t control what they don’t know how to. Hence people are afraid of the unknown